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Unrecovered costs at death in annuities and retirement plans

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This entry was posted on 3/16/2008 5:29 PM and is filed under uncategorized.

There's a question of what to do with the remaining basis of an annuity upon the death of its owner? In Minnesota many people receive Public Employee Retirement Association (PERA) when they retire. I expect to see on their 1099-Rs a slightly larger Gross distribution than Taxable distribution. The difference represents a part of their unrecovered basis in the plan (of their after tax money). Where does this untaxed money go upon their death? I think it goes to their beneficiary when there is one.

I noticed a surviving spouse taking over the payments recently. The spouses 1099-R didn't show basis because the Gross distribution equaled the Taxable distribution. It seems we should either convince PERA to change how it does things, or find out what the remaining basis is and figure the basis recovered each your ourselves.

In looking into this issue if found this clear as mud support for my position:   Basis    Cornell who has this information is thanked. The problem with trying to understand it is with the IRS, who wrote what Cornall reproduces, who often fails to write in simple terms for normal people. I can also write that carrying forward and using this uncovered basis makes sense to an accountant because it balances the books. Because the money that was once taxed, is not taxed again.

"the deduction...   ...shall be allowed to the person entitled to such payments for the taxable year in which such payments are received." - The IRS

 

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    • 3/18/2008 3:00 PM Linda Byrd wrote:
      Question: I want to know can I claim head of household if I have someone living in my home, but I pay the majority of the expenses? For instance they buy groceries and I also buy groceries occasionally they pay a bill but I pay all of the mortgage, insurance, utilities etc.
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      1. 3/18/2008 3:29 PM David Greenslit CPA wrote:
        If this "someone" is your child, yes you can. You need to have paid over half the cost of keeping up a home that was for over half the year the home of your child. You do not have to claim the expemption for that child. One of my clients has a 50 year old son that lives with here and who earns $60,000 a year. She files as Head of Household, and meets all the IRS's requirements to do so.    Head of Household
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